Occupied from who?
When was there ever a state of Palestine from which these lands were occupied
from? There was one big slab of land called the British Mandate of Palestine.
Since 1947 there have been a series of wars which resulted in territorial
changes. What right do the Europeans have to select an arbitrary point in
history, and declare all Israeli activity beyond that point
"illegal"?
***Yawn*** Please
do me a favor and enjoy your life to the fullest humanely possible but layoff
the drugs.
So when did the
land become Arab? Name a single law or treaty that gives them that land. Bet
you can't and won't even try
law? treaty? What
are you smoking. Land ownership is determent who has a deed to it. Arabs have
deeds, Jews have guns. It's called might is right. It's not Jewish values but
it is Zionist values.
Arabs do not have deeds, liar. Mos
Arabs rented, and Jews owned land, and bought more land.
Only the Arabs use
"might is right." The only claims Arabs had to the land is that they
controlled it. They no longer control it.
Jews have deeds to you
liar. The early Zionists purchased vast amounts of land legally from the
Arabs... that is until the Arabs started murdering anyone who sells to Jews. I
don't know why you persist in supporting these violent and immoral people.
We are talking
about land post 67. Go buy a clue. I support peace and justice. Stealing land
is hardly the way to go to achieving that.
Yes, everyone talks
about post '67, as if things were rosy before then. Clue: they weren't. The
Arabs have been intent on eliminating the Jewish presence in the Middle East
since the 1920s at least. They tried to destroy a nascent Israeli state in
1948. Borders were never established after each war concluded. Then Israel
decisively won the 1967 war. Do you think muslim attitudes towards Israel
magically changed after 1967? They didn't! They still intend to destroy Israel.
That mean nothing to you? There is no difference to pre-67 and post-67, so it
makes no sense for you to continually refer to 1967 as if it holds some special
significance... If you did some research and used that tiny brain of yours,
you'd realise that when Jordan signed a peace treaty with Israel, they effectively
gave up all claims to the land that Israel captured in 67. They did not ask for
it back. This actually gives MORE credibility to Israeli sovereignty in post-67
areas.
Liar - they do not.
Try again. And yes moron territorial claims are based upon laws and treaties -
you sure are stupid
When one has run
out of arguments, one resorts to personal attacks. Congratulations.
Arguments? You call
spouting delusions as argument? Read the article Einstein. The EU considers the
land as OCCUPIED and not part of Israel. Can I make it any clearer?
Yes, DUH!! And I am
saying that they are not qualified to make such a judgement. They simply
decided amongst themselves what Israel's borders are, despite the fact that
Israel is the first sovereign nations to "occupy" those contentious
lands. The Europeans are intent on gifting that land to the Palestinians, even
though "Palestine" was divided up in 1947 and 77% of that land became
Jordan.
The EU wants no
part of war crimes. By accepting items from the occupied territories they will
be involved in war criminal activities in enriching the criminals. There are
laws against knowingly buying and selling items known to be the result of
criminal activity. DUH!!
And they have no
authority to do so.
Such is the
catholic brain, and I use the term loosely.
Arabs in West
Bank/Gaza have no right to Israeli citizenship. Also, Israel doesn't control
that many Arabs, so what you are complaining about?
You have a right to
be clueless.
What I said is
correct. Deal with it.
Israel has no right
to deny Palestinian the right to citizenship. They are the natives. Indians
have citizenship in America and South America? Maori's have citizenship in New
Zealand? Aboriginals have citizenship in Australia? Why the Jews can't extend
this right to the non-Jewish inhabitants? Or let them be free for the love of Moses!!!
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Of course they do. Arabs in the West
Bank and Gaza have no right at all to citizenship in the Jewish state.
Jews language/religion/culture are
indigenous to the land, and no other. Jews are the genetic and cultural
descendants of the actual people who lived in the land in antiquity. So Jews,
not Arabs, are the natives of the land called Palestine.
Arab culture, language, religion are
foreign to the land and there is no evidence the vast majority of Arabs who
call themselves Palestinian have any deep roots in the land.
The ancestral
Jewish homeland was partitioned to give Jews' self-determination. Arabs have no
right to deny Jews their self-determination.
He's complaining
because he hates the idea of Jews living in Judea.
I love Jews living
in Judea and Jewtopia. Just keep it real. Starting with the fact the Torah does
not replace a deed to ownership of land. Can we agree on that?
RAS PUTIN Joe420k • an hour ago
Nope, no deal.
Judea is simply a
geographical name for the land where Jews lived (thousands of years before
Islam, I might add). It has nothing to do with Torah, it's simple geography and
anthropology. No one disputes that Arabs came from Arabia. Likewise, Jews are
from Judea and have every right to live there.
Sorry. You seem
detached from reality. Judea is a biblical term in every sense of the word. It
has no meaning outside of the Torah.
It's an ancient term
that describes a known geographical location. What part about that do you have
trouble understanding?
Joe420k Jethro Cohen
An ancient term that came from where? It is nowhere to be found but in the Torah. No Torah, No Judea. What part of that don't you understand?
GFY
The European opposition
to the Russian annexation of Crimea lasted about...1 week? But they remain
unwilling to recognize Israeli authority in areas they have had full control of
for nearly 50 years! And the opposition remains just as strong as ever. Wonder
why the hypocrisy? The EU is just the UN all over again.
o
In Crimea they had
a thing called an election. The referendum to join Russia passed
overwhelmingly. No surprise as the majority are Russian speakers. Israel needs
to have a similar referendum in the West Bank and let them vote on, to join
Israel, Jordan, or to be independent? Who in their right mind can find fault in
having people vote? Let everyone in the West Bank vote, including settlers and
let us see what the majority wants? That is not going to happen because freedom
of choice is afforded only to the chosen.
You are an actual
id1ot. I'm surprised you even bothered to mention that sham election. Maybe if
the election happened BEFORE the Russian invasion, the outcome may have been
more believable. But to hold a sham election after invading... Let's just say
that's a very Russian way of dealing with things.
The Russians are
experiencing economic sanctions because of their actions in Crimea.
Yes. I can tell by
the all the actions of Putin to the "non war" in the Ukraine as well
as the EU "non reaction." Oh and don't forget Putin's new adventures
in what was once "Syria..."
Notice their grave
distress
I read the article
and noticed Hotovely's grave distress.
I noticed something
else. She is a young woman with possibly a great political future. Polish
catholics see things differently from the rest of us, Dog.
Do you think for
one minute the Russians give a darn about the sactions? Will that make them
leave Crimea? Will it? No, of course it won't. It's all about money and power.
Might makes right. The Russians know that sanctions are meaningless when Western
Europe needs their gas and their oil. Maybe Israel needs to take a page out of
Russia's playbook, and stop caring what everyone else thinks, and do what is
right for themselves.
Exactly... time to
MAN UP.
Ah but Iran has the
gas reserves, Egypt just discovered a very large field, Cypriots (unlike
Israel) have cleared the way for their production and if the mess in Libya can
be brought under control. Russian will never get the leverage it once had
again. 'Begging us' to use the infrastructure Russian co's have spent billions
putting in place in the 'end'.
Don't underestimate
how dangerous Putin is. He is a man of limitless ambition. If he finds himself
hamstrung like that, he is not one to bow out gracefully. I do not know how he
will react, but given his reputation, violence and bloodshed are going to be
the likely result.
Given the oligarchy
behind him looking for who 'follows' it's likely to be his end, in one 'form'
or another.
The difference is
that Russia made the annexation formal. We don't.
So, is it time to
get rid of Bibi and replace him with someone who is a lot tougher and crueler?
The Muzzies have had it to good for to long.
o
No, it's time for
the 'very' right wing to stop doing our enemies' jobs for them by constantly
attacking Israel's elected government.
I guess Israel
could just relabel their settlement products as "Made in Palestine with
genuine Palestinian Labor" but the Hebrew and Arabic with a kosher seal
looks funny to me.
New elections may
be just what we need. Things have not been going well.
We just had elections.
People need to go
to sleep for several years if they can't stand reading the news or knowing
what's going on.
Too many
Palestinian knife attacks for that yet.
It's time to annex
Elana. That's cannot last longer.
No, it's time for
people to stop acting like the PM must be the messiah this split second or they
will go stark raving mad.
Nobody says that he
is not the Messaih, he should act as if he was.
He's not the messiah and it's not his
job to act as if he thinks he is the messiah.
The 'very' right wing needs to stop
being something else that Israel has to survive.
It's not fair - we
have enough challenges facing us already.
Since when have we
ever stopped sticking our noses into everybody's business? I doubt the right
has a monopoly on yente.
How do you know
that he is not the Messiah?
So far as I can
tell he hasn't parted Iran like the Red Sea or split the earth to swallow
Palestinian knife attackers but hey, maybe Mashiach wouldn't do that anyways?
Because he doesn't
have the fangs or the claws.
Dont need a
messiah, just a leader.
Actually that is
what a Messiah is, a leader. The one who save the Jewish People.
We need a new
'very' right wing that doesn't give Israel more problems when we already have
enough.
Right. That will
happen just as soon as we have a single united orthodoxy under Mashiach.
When the time comes, we will know.
The world will flip on its head and
realize what bozons they've been all these thousands of years.
This hasn't
happened yet - nowhere close.
Bozons? Aren't they
little monkeys that imitate subatomic particles? ^o^
It's a software
engineer's version of calling someone a "bozo," I think.
You have no
business with "wings" unless you're a bird.
I prefer mine with
garlic butter myself.
I like mine hot. :)
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